tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17230194.post4011261443679633047..comments2023-06-12T06:35:54.018-04:00Comments on Experiencing Reformation: Subjection to God and Subjection to the State (Piper)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04490367869649804506noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17230194.post-9661329402724210342009-08-31T15:52:32.666-04:002009-08-31T15:52:32.666-04:00Hi Bruce, Sorry it took me a few days to get back ...Hi Bruce, Sorry it took me a few days to get back to you; we've had a crazy weekend. I think there are two different issues you bring up in your comment. First, I understand the risks. I would rather worship God's sovereign rule over government and other drivers by attempting to obey the posted speed limits. If I cannot control what others do, then I must rest my cares upon the Lord.<br /><br />The other issue I hear you describing is slow drivers in the fast lane. However, just because I drive the speed limit does not mean I drive slow in the fast lane. If I desire to keep the laws given by the government in order to worship God, I don't pick one law and not the other. I believe that many states have a left-lane violation that would apply to someone driving too slow in the fast lane. The law makes provision for driving faster than the speed limit in order to pass slower cars. In that case, I speed up, pass the car, then slow back down.<br /><br />Here is the main problem: most people, even Christians, simply do not WANT to drive the speed limit. And I do not expect anyone to decide to want to obey the speed limit as an effect of reading my arguments. But I do think that if we value God's Word as true and right, we have to do something with what the Bible says. If the Bible says, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities," we have to decide to obey God or reject God.<br /><br />I am praying that people will be changed by God's Holy Spirit in order that they will WANT to obey the laws of the government that God has established.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04490367869649804506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17230194.post-26506702135622809932009-08-29T09:35:11.819-04:002009-08-29T09:35:11.819-04:00Of course, I also found this through 22 words. Do ...Of course, I also found this through 22 words. Do you realize that being the unusual person going the speed limit puts yourself and others at greater risk? The Autobahn doesn't have a higher death rate than our highways because the range of car speeds on a road is much more important to safety than the average or maximum speeds. In my state of Florida, the legislature passed a bill that would have allowed cops to tickets people going the speed limit in left lanes because they were blocking traffic and making the roads more dangerous. Every police department that addressed the issue supported the bill. But the former governor, Jeb Bush vetoed the bill because the said it didn't make sense to ticket people who were obeying the law because they got in the way of people speeding and breaking the law. His logic was fine. The problem is he was ultimately supporting the unsafe laws--requiring low speed limits--over the safer law-requiring driver etiquette. <br /><br />BruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17230194.post-49183629447660986172009-08-27T12:27:24.908-04:002009-08-27T12:27:24.908-04:00Yes, it's from the sermon audio. Does seem ha...Yes, it's from the sermon audio. Does seem harsh, I agree, but Piper is quite passionate! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04490367869649804506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17230194.post-73364581520131672622009-08-27T12:23:47.052-04:002009-08-27T12:23:47.052-04:00I found this after your comment on 22 Words.
I...I found this after your comment on 22 Words.<br /><br />I'm wondering, did you transcribe this - it's not in the text from the sermon.<br /><br />It seems a little harsh.Jamscohttp://responsiblefather.com/noreply@blogger.com